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    Posted On: 28-Jun-2005
    From: Moe Williams [new3dbee.....com]
    Subject: Re: [roatan] RE: HGTV


    that would be cool

    --- Sharon Provost wrote:

    > I am especially interested in your HGTV project. I
    > live in the twin cities
    > and back in 1982 Jason Davis of KSTP channel 5 (st
    > Paul) traveled with us to
    > Roatan and did a 4 part series on Minnesotans on the
    > island. I have lent out
    > my one copy to a friend for transferring to a DVD -
    > if you would like a copy
    > I will send it to you when I get it back.
    >
    > Sharon
    >
    > -----Original Message-----
    > From: roatan.....com
    > [mailto:roatan.....com] On Behalf Of
    > Geoff Arms
    > Sent: Saturday, June 25, 2005 11:53 AM
    > To: roatan.....com
    > Subject: Re: [roatan] In depth update Viva Wyndham
    > and Mystic Harbour
    >
    >
    > Moe,
    > I hope you'll let us all know the date they plan to
    > show the segment on your
    > move to Roatan. Thanks, Geoff
    > ----- Original Message -----
    > From: Moe Williams
    > To: roatan.....com
    > Sent: Friday, June 24, 2005 10:34 AM
    > Subject: [roatan] In depth update Viva Wyndham and
    > Mystic Harbour
    >
    >
    > First of all. I don't live on Roatan yet but will
    > be
    > arriving this fall with future wife, dog, and cat
    > in
    > tow.
    >
    > We have met many of you on the forum in person and
    > are
    > looking forward to meeting others as we adjust to
    > the
    > goods and bads of living there. Eyes wide open.
    >
    > I took it upon myself to get ahold of who I could
    > about the Wyndham project and the following is
    > from a
    > brief but detailed discussion with Watermark
    > Resorts/PriceMorgan who are doing the
    > preconstruction
    > sales. This information is nothing but notes from
    > that conversation and I CANNOT CLAIM THAT IT IS
    > EITHER
    > FACT OF FICTION it is just what the guy shared
    > with
    > me.
    >
    > I spoke with one of the principles Watermark /
    > PriceMorgan LLC (we won't use his name out of
    > respect).
    >
    > 1) Supposedly the developer is Rick Mortel (
    > couldn't
    > read my own notes very well so could be wrong name
    > ).
    >
    > 2) He was working on a hotel deal with Wyndham
    > but
    > they are NOT building a hotel there. Just for
    > those
    > who might not understand, many companies like
    > Marriot,
    > Wyndham and others have distanced themselves from
    > brick and mortar(B&M) efforts. I am sure the fact
    > that it is too capital intensive, other related
    > litigation risks, and the fact that management
    > contracts are much easier to forecast to all play
    > a
    > role in that approach.
    >
    > 3) They did license the name to him and supposedly
    > have signed an agreement to be the management
    > company
    > for the project. So the units will enter a
    > network
    > and the time can be shared. Since Wyndham signed
    > the
    > management company agreement, they also had their
    > architect involved during the whole process as
    > they
    > needed to make sure it is effecient for them to
    > run
    > the operation when completed.
    >
    > 5) Watermarks / PriceMorgan claim they have
    > invested
    > in the development after doing a lot of due
    > diligence
    > themselves. The guy said that the former Governor
    > of
    > the Bay Islands is part of the project as he owned
    > much of the land involved (that might explain why
    > people on the forum said the developer does not
    > own
    > the land). A smart developer might not try to eat
    > the
    > cost of the land and instead cut a joint venture
    > with
    > the land owner to provide development of the
    > project
    > and than share the profits. In addition, the guy
    > from
    > PriceMorgan said he had checked with the Minister
    > of
    > Tourism to see if the country was prepared to
    > support
    > the project.
    >
    > 6) He claims they have presold 200 units already
    > of
    > the 250 in the first phase. The money for
    > preconstruction is being held in escrow in Destin
    > florida.
    >
    > 7) Stewart title and First American are
    > supposedly
    > going to handle title insurance when the closing
    > of
    > sales and such gets moving. That would be why
    > Stewart
    > Tile is giving no assurances. Remember these are
    > 1/8
    > share units with multiple units on the land. A
    > title
    > company can't possibly provide Title Insurance
    > until
    > the units are done, they can do a search on both
    > land
    > title and any encumbrances on the structures.
    > Only
    > then can they provide Title Insurance.
    >
    > 8) Remember these are 'pre-contruction' sales
    > which
    > are always risky unless you know the developer and
    > can
    > see a tract record of success. We all know how
    > that
    > goes. Neither good or bad, just a fact. You want
    > better returns you take more risk. Sometimes you
    > win
    > sometimes yo lose.
    >
    > 9) He said the footings for the units should
    > start
    > coming out of the ground this fall and it will
    > take
    > 1.5 years for the project to really get launched.
    > i.e
    > units built, ameneties in place, etc. Also he
    > said he
    > is looking at this as a five year project which is
    > realistic. Things take time as you all know very
    > well.
    >
    > 10) He also indicated that they purchased, the
    > developer did, 17 acres adjoing the property to do
    > some other things.
    >
    > Well I hope this makes sense and helps with some
    > of
    > the questions.
    >
    > Gary
    >
    > P.S. HGTV is doing a House Hunters episode that
    > will
    > feature Roatan. How do I know this? They are
    > using
    > my future wife and I as the folks moving to
    > Roatan.
    > They have already filmed at our house in Minnesota
    > for
    > the first part of the episode and will be
    > traveling
    > with us to Roatan next month ( July ) to finish
    > the
    > shooting. Good PR for the Island. So let's be on
    > our
    > best behavior :-) Just joking!
    >
    >
    >
    >
    >
    >
    >
    > Roatanet.com: Visitors Guide To Roatan and the Bay
    > Islands
    >
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