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| Posted On: | 31-Aug-2005 |
| From: | CBeachInn.....com |
| Subject: | Re: [roatan] Re: Tipping running amok |
In a message dated 8/30/2005 1:26:52 PM Central America Standard Tim, markshannonlmt.....com writes: > Scott, with regard to your comments about tipping waiters....... > I'm not sure how it is in the Islands, but in the States, food > servers are paid an hourly wage of $2 plus some change. The > Government allows the resturants to pay them this, because the base > 15% tip makes up the difference to bring them up to minimum wage. > > Also.....Waitstaff is required to tip out thier support staff; > bartenders, busboys, food runners, etc. The amount they are > required to "tip out" is based on a percentage of their total sales > for the day. > > Start with 15%.....and if the service is really great, give extra. > > Think of the 15% as a table service fee, it guarentees you a server. > That's just the way it has come to be in the states. > > if you spend $100, your tip should be $15 > if the server tips out 30% then that is $4.50 > if you tip $3 ........that $3 is going go to the tip out AND the > server is going to have to cough up an additional $1.50 from their > own pocket. > > Also....waiters are tax on projected tips, based on sales. It is > not uncommon for a server to recieve a pay check that says "void", > because the meager $2 they make an hour went entirely to taxes. > > I waited table in NYC for 10 years > > The bottomline is this.... The resturant doens't pay the servers to > be there, you do.......The only money a server will ever see, is > what they take home from your tip. > > If a server comes to your table, takes your order and you get food > and drinks.......then you NEED to pay them. if they are > exceptional.....then you NEED to reward them. > > And on a more current note........ just because a spa/resort is > charging $150.......don't assume the Massage Therapist is getting > most of it, so that you don't have to tip. Here in AZ a massage > therapist gets paid about $25 for a $150 treatment.......also keep > in mind that that is a per treatment commision, they could be on > duty for 8 hours but only have 1 client, which would end up being > $3.13 an hour. > > Things are not always as they appear > > And the crowd ROARS!! HUGE APPLAUSE!!!! I KNOW this is NOT by the rules to do this--but I just HAD to say EXCELLENT POST! As to the guy with an idea to change the restaurant biz to suit his ideas on paying wait staff employees??? Nice plan--but not reality on this planet--LOL nor probably anywhere in this dimension of space and time. Salaries are what they are--meal charges handled the the way they are--and not liking it won't change anything. You can't have it all -- ever -- unless you're prepared to pay for it--at what it costs--if you're not paying for it one way then you'll simply be charged another. Something tells me if you meal costs went up to cover the additional payroll expense to pay all wait staff minimum wage you wouldn't like that too much either. Nor get better service. If you don't see this then try to get your table waited at any McDonalds and you'll see what I mean! Commission salary works--it motivates people to try to do what they must to earn more. Always has worked best--except when folks don't get it and try to buck the system. #$%#$ Rats! I SWORE I was done with this subject. I KNOW it's a religion to some folks to defend VEHEMENTLY their meager (or nonexistent) tipping--even while in an impoverished third world country. To them it's theft of THEIR money to pay salaries of someone else's employees. While others will just continue to think those who don't tip properly are cheap and just making excuses--or at best raised by wolves and not taught how to behave appropriately when it comes to tipping. That's the arguement. Period. And it's NEVER going to be settled. Neither side will give an inch--both are FIRMLY convinced they are right. So there's no point discussing it again, right? And we REALLY have done this subject to death here on this list about 100 times. So this time I hope I did NOT open the door to it again. Funny thing is, we don't employ wait staff here--so this really has nothing to do with us professionally--just personally. Waylon and Sandy Sims Coral Beach Inn's Photos http://members.aol.com/athundersm/photos.htm Note: E-mail is NOT perfect. Please never assume we have received your message unless you get a response from us. We answer ALL E-mail daily. PS Asking about us gets you put onto our newsletter list. If you want off just say so. No problem. -- --------------------~--> Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page /dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/maOolB/TM --~-> http://www.roatanet.com To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/roatan/ roatan- : | |
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