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| Posted On: | 27-Dec-2005 |
| From: | johhnyfl....com |
| Subject: | Re: [roatan] Re: Question about Arrons photo |
How ddoes it get into the US with all the controls in place? -----Original Message----- From: karen kotowski To: roatan....com Sent: Mon, 26 Dec 2005 15:02:38 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: [roatan] Re: Question about Arron's photo Maybe this sounds a little ignorant but how in the world does all that drug get to Roatan...Now I understand Honduras but it seems as if that this all could be eliminated with more control on what comes and goes off that island...How many ways can one get stuff there...Are the ports so uncontroled that you can bring stuff in there without any inspections...If you all could eliminate the drugs you probably would eliminate a lot of the problems that island has...Is it so far out of control that there is no way you can do that..How high up is the drugs going...? Is that why you have no way of stopping it...Who is in the higher groups doing this...????? .Cant you get a group to do volunteer inspections..Look at US , they now have vigilantes on the borders to stop the mess we have..Not that we are doing such a good job but you all seems just as smart and the territory you would have to cover is so small...Maybe I am way out of bounds with what I am saying but it is hard to read about this on such a wonderful little island ....Karen David Greenawalt wrote: Matt, Some of your information about Mara Salvatrucha is not completely correct. I'll try to complete the picture: MS members were originally from El Salvador, as you mentioned, but the gang developed in the Los Angeles area as Salvadoran immigrants sought to defend themselves against rival Mexican gangs. MS began to become a problem in Central America after US immigration authorities deported MS-involved criminals from the US during the 1990s. Currently, the US continues a deportation policy for dangerous criminals, thus exacerbating an already serious problem with international gangs. MS is heavily involved in trafficking crack cocaine (which has recently become a very serious problem in the Bay Islands), human trafficking, and stolen car rings. Your comments about excessive drug use, lascivious lifestyles, living in communes, etc., are not necessarily factual and should probably be chalked up to the yellowish tint to Honduran journalism. Although there is some veracity to those claims, hyperbole should not be disseminated as the truth. -David --- In roatan....com, "Matthew Harper" wrote: > > The initials MS tattooed on each pectoral of this fine specimen of manhood > stand for ' Mara Salvatrucha ' which was a gang originally started in El > Salvador during the revolution and adopted LA style gang hand signals , pot > smoking methods and dress codes. The mara salvatrucha is the opposing gang > to the 'mara diez y ocho'. The two gangs make law on the mainland in tough > barrios like Comayaguela in Tegus even the police dare to come out of the > posta. > On roatan there are small pockets of wannabee gangsters who adopt gang > behaviour ( smoking excessive amounts of dope , living in communes , sharing > women , walking around with the torso naked and baggy jeans waistline down > below their buttocks which are covered by yes the famous boxers) and in order > to support the hedonistic lifestyle venture out occasionally and commit ' > asaltos' on any unfortunate that ventures out of doors in arough > neighbourhood with something that can be sold ( gold chains etc.).Pockets of > these wannabbe gangs who pledge alliances with the MS or M18 are prevalent > in Bo. El Swampo ( calle ocho ) , coxenhole ; Bo. El Bight Oakridge ; La > bahia in Los Fuertes and 'El Burrinche ' en West End ( more or less behind > Woody's groceries ). > I have an employee who has been with me for a year now and who was once > member of one of these ' chapters' .He was shot in Bo. Los Fuertes 3 years > ago during a rival gang dispute and became a born again Christian and family > man.He has enlightened me quite a bit as to what this sub-culture on Roatan > is all about.Its quite interesting ( more so I suppose for someone who > studies sociology )and necessary for all of us to be aware of I think if we > are to address the issues that face us if we are to prevent crime here on > Roatan and look for long term solutions. > > > Mat' Harper > > -----Original Message----- > From: roatan@yahoogroups.com [mailto:roatan....com] On Behalf Of > dkevans > Sent: Friday, December 23, 2005 12:28 PM > To: roatan....com > Subject: [roatan] Question about Arron's photo > > Question: Are the tattoos on the man's torso gang-related? > All the best...dke > http://www.thejudasbird.com > > > > > > > > > > > > > Adventures on Roatan: An exciting tour of the island on DVD > http://www.roatanvideo.com > > Adventures on Roatan: An exciting tour of the island on DVD http://www.roatanvideo.com SPONSORED LINKS Roatan bay island Bay islands Travel to honduras ----------- YAHOO! 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