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| Posted On: | 20-Jan-2006 |
| From: | Hotel Chillies and Native Sons [chilliesrtb....com |
| Subject: | Re: [roatan] Whoa..I really goofed... |
What a wonderful answer! And very close to what happened. After writing in I decided to ask Alvin himself where the name Jackson came from and this is what he said. Some Europeans came over to the Caribbean and settled in the Cayman Islands. They made a living off catching and killing turtles for their meat. At some stage they were so successful that there were very few turtles left to catch and they heard that there were many over by the Moskitia and so moved over there, mingled with the Payans and shared many things including their sir name. And the rest is history. Mish --- dkevans wrote: > Okay...I'll take a stab at this... > In Europe during the middle-ages most people did not > have Sir names. The > French and Spanish and Portuguese, among others, > often took the name of > the city or region in which they were born. as a Sir > Name...You would be > Mish de Seville (or wherever). Common folk in what > are now the British > Isles would simply take the name of the father...for > example, John was > the most common name...his son, in the small village > of Bedham, lets > say, would be known as John's son of Bedham. Much > later, when Sir names > came into general use, his descendant might be > called John Johnson of > Bedham. Then later still when large urban areas > evolved and many > Johnsons were in one place, having migrated to > cities from the > countryside, the Sir name stuck but given names > became first names. In > Wales, for example, where Evans is the most common > Sir name, Evan > (without the 's') is very common still as a first > name...it actually > means simply "Son" So anyone today named Evan > Evans...and there are > plenty of them...is really named "Son of > Sons"...You can do the same > with Peter...Peterson, or Thomas...Thomason, or > William...Williamson or > Williams...etc. As for how Indian from the Mosquito > Coast ended up being > named Jackson...well, I once knew one named > Woodson....also from the > Mosquita of Honduras. He knew that his Great Grand > Father was from > England and was named John J. Woodson. Now it > happens that caucasian > genes are often recessive, which suggest that light > skin started out > likely in one loci or two and was selected for in > the northern climes > because. although pathogenic in the tropics...as I > can attest having had > many skin cancers removed from almost all over...it > nevertheless (light > skin that is) allowed for individuals with it to > absorb necessary > nutrients, such as hormone 'D" that interacted with > calcium and allowed > for strong, healthy bones by preventing rickets and > other debilitating > disorders of the skeleton...which would be quite > rough for our > Pleistocene hunters who came in contact with giant > mammoths, foe > example, or a sabertooth cats...(almost all > Pleistocene mammals were > huge in size, and even today cold adapted mammals > such as large white > tail deer are huge compared with tropical deer). So, > over much time, > light skins, although normally pathogenic in most > climates, was selected > for in the north among a very small number- or > genepool- of people. In > time, due primarily to techniology and disease, they > were able to > scatter their genes about the globe...but as often > as not their genes > were recessive and do not really show > up...especially if they interbreed > with those with darker skins such as one finds > among people from almost > everywhere else other than Europe and northern Asia. > This means any one > in the middle ages named _Jack_...(which happens to > be the nick name for > John, which happens to be the most common name in > the British Isles (an > Spain in the name of Juan, or Scandinavia in the for > of Jon, etc.) would > someday have descendants named Jackson, who, if they > were British might > well someday down the road end up interbreeding with > a dark skin female > on the north coast of Central America, which, after > 1820 ended up known > as the Republica de Honduras. Now he would start a > family, have many > children, grandchildren, and great grandchildren, > etc., etc., named > Jackson, yet today that ancestor's genes will have > long been "swamped" > and his recessive caucasian genes will not be seen, > with the more > dominant genes for darker skin and eyes taking > over...which are, of > course, far more protective in the tropics. Vala! > You have a family of > dark skinned folks named Jackson who claim their > roots go back to the > Payan Indians and some of whom came to the Bay > Islands sometime past in > the 30s or 40s...of course I haven''t the faintest > idea how Alvin > Jackson's family came about...but heck...I had an > extra 15 minutes so > before dinner and so took a stab at it....anyone > have a better idea? > All the best...dke > http://www.thejudasbird.com > > On 1/19/2006 11:12 AM, Hotel Chillies and Native > Sons wrote: > > >This is all very interesting. So who can answer > this > >one. My man, Alvin Jackson, not Al Jackson (also on > >the chat group), isn't related to the French Key / > >Harbour family. His parents are Payan indians who > came > >over from the Moskitia some time in the 30's or > 40's. > >Does anyone know how the name Jackson got to the > >Moskitian indians? > > > >Mish > > > >--- dkevans wrote: > > > > > > > >>Whoa...I really goofed...should have re-read > before > >>I posted...of course > >>the first male Jackson of the French > Harbour-French > >>key Jacksons did NOT > >>marry Miss Minnie Arch...I hope I caught this > error > >>before anyone thinks > >>I've lost my mind...Joseph Ashley Jackson (some > say > >>his name was Joseph > >>Spencer Jackson) came out to the Caribbean around > >>1867. He married a > >>lady from French Harbour named Miss > Greenwood...lots > >>of generations > >>passed before Mr. Darwin Jackson, (father of > Albert, > >>et. all) ...married > >>Miss Minnie Arch...who is the aunt of Mister > Spencer > >>Arch of French > >>Key's "Iguana Farm". So I got some confused, > typing > >>at lightening speed > >>to try to get too much done in a single day...and > >>got my generations all > >>screwed up. I personally am a big fan of the > >>Jacksons and the Arches on > >>the island, and hope Dale Jackson will go down in > >>History as a great > >>political figure...time will tell, but I > personally > >>feel Dale has the > >>strength of character to pull it off...we'll see > in > >>about four years > >>time whether I was correct or not...I think I will > >>be, but who knows??? > >>All the best...dke > >>http://www.thejudasbird.com > >> > >>On 1/17/2006 12:41 PM, dkevans wrote: > >> > >> > >> > >>>No...the island was completely depopulated > several > >>> > >>> > >>times of all British > >> > >> > >>>settlers...Lt. Jackson was a british officer sent > >>> > >>> > >>over to punish > >> > >> > >>>Trujillo for destroying the British agricultural > >>> > >>> > >>colony of the puritans > >> > === message truncated === _____ Do You Yahoo!? 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