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    Posted On: 28-Feb-2003
    From: [galaxyrodeo.....com]
    Subject: [roatan] Re: americans on roatan!! -- My take on the U.S. Ambassadors conference


    FYI - The history of Arabs in Honduras goes back to the fact that
    they were persecuted for being Christians and therefore
    relocated to Honduras.

    It should be noted that the majority of them are Christians and do
    not feel any sort of sovreignty with Islamic/Muslim
    fundamentalists. They have absolutely nothing to do with Islam
    and the whole "jihad" mentality.
    --- In roatan.....com, cunamara....... wrote:
    > The Ambassador's conference focused largely on security -- in
    general and in
    > specific relation to the upcoming war with Iraq.
    >
    > I put the latter that way because the vice-counsel was very
    explicit. To use
    > his reiterated words: "It's not 'if,' it's 'when'." He said Honduras
    was
    > viewed by Washington as NOT a logical target but that
    opportunistic
    > terrorists could be expected to choose "soft" targets anywhere
    in the world:
    > i.e., easy targets involving U.S. citizens or interests that might
    not be
    > well-protected. Hence, we advised to be alert to any suspicious
    situations.
    > It was pointed out that illicit Honduran passports have been
    found in the
    > possession of terrorist groups in other countries and one
    attendee reminded
    > the group that San Pedro and Tegucigalpa have surprisingly
    large numbers of
    > citizens with Arab backgrounds.
    >
    > I was initially alarmed by what I thought sounded a bit alarmist,
    but then I
    > realized that they were simply choosing to risk erring on the
    side of
    > caution. They advised us that, in the case of some high-alert
    scenario for
    > U.S. citizens in Honduras, they would definitely NOT have the
    means to
    > evacuate anyone except Embassy personnel (which, if it
    happened, would
    > probably be in the form of a staff reduction at most). Therefore,
    we would
    > each have to decide for ourselves, individually, how threatened
    we felt and
    > what we thought best to do about it. They suggested that it
    would not be
    > unreasonable for someone to decide to return to the States
    until the danger
    > was past.
    >
    > The mood of the group in response to this was not such that I
    expected to
    > see people lining up to buy tickets for the States. However, I
    wondered if
    > there might be some cautionary shifting of upcoming travel
    plans. As for me
    > personally, this is currently home and it's where I intend to be. I
    had a
    > vague sense that the majority of us "Residents" felt the same
    way.
    >
    > On a more general level, there was some information that lent
    some needed
    > perspective to the recently-discussed issue of personal
    security on Roatan.
    > In the past five years, six U.S. citizens have been murdered on
    Roatan and,
    > to date, none of those cases have been resolved. However,
    very importantly,
    > investigations in four of those cases confirmed that drugs or
    > drug-trafficking was involved. That leaves but two cases in five
    years that
    > was not drug-related, including the one that occurred just a few
    weeks ago.
    > Hardly an alarming statistic.
    >
    > As to the one that occurred a few weeks ago: an attendee
    close to the
    > situation confirmed the Embassy's statement that they are
    pulling out all
    > stops to see that this case was resolve satisfactorily. Under an
    "ongoing
    > investigation" policy, not much was either shared or confirmed
    in the way of
    > specifics, but we were left with clear impression that both
    Embassy and FBI
    > resources were being utilized.
    >
    > There was the now-usual warning about purchasing property
    on Roatan, based
    > primarily on the fact that not one of about 195 complaints
    reported to the
    > Embassy in the past 5 years has been resolved. As the
    Vice-Counsel bluntly
    > put it, the system simply "ain't working." He gave the State
    Department's
    > currently standing position on buying land in Honduras: "Don't."
    However, he
    > went on to indicate that, if you do, be very careful.
    >
    > His advice seemed to do little more than confirm what most of
    us
    > longer-termers have learned. While there is no such thing as a
    zero-risk
    > situation, the level of risk can be lowered substantially if one
    proceeds
    > with as much care as is reasonably possible. Conversely, if a
    newcomer jumps
    > at an easy deal that seems almost too good to be true -- well,
    as they say,
    > it probably is -- but even more so in Honduras.
    >
    > I think most felt that the Ambassador and his staff presented
    themselves
    > quite well. They made it quite clear that they have little in the
    way of
    > quick and easy solutions for solving problems that occur within
    the
    > framework of Honduran sovereignty. Using the escape strategy
    depicted in the
    > "Shawshank Redemption" movie as an analogy, the
    Ambassador said that they
    > basically see themselves as chipping away at the system
    relentlessly until
    > they begin to see the light of day.
    >
    > Those were some quick highlights as I heard them. There
    were a scattering of
    > questions on other subjects but most were related to security
    and property
    > concerns. I'm sure there are other listees who may have
    picked on stuff that
    > I might have missed.
    >
    > -Tom
    >
    > ----- Original Message -----
    > From: "philip douglas haney"
    > To:
    > Sent: Wednesday, February 26, 2003 12:40 PM
    > Subject: Re: [roatan] americans on roatan!!
    >
    >
    > > Sandi,
    > > PLEASE...take notes! We will not be able to attend but want to
    know
    > EVERYTHING!
    > > Thanks,
    > > Doug & Becky
    > > soon to be at Punta Blanca
    > >
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